372 – He was mistaken for Jackie Chan: Tom interviews Mike Hayashi

Episode 372 – Mike Hayashi
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[00:00:24] Hey, everybody it's Tom here with episode three hundred and seventy two of Screw the commute podcast. I'm here with Mike Hayashi. He's known as the Flyin' Hawaiian. I've known this guy for a long time and he's a martial arts expert. We're going to hear all about that. But he's been asked for his autograph. Wow. Well, it was an eighth grader or an eight year old kid who thought he was Jackie Chan. He'll tell you about that later.

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[00:04:01] All right. Let's get to the main event. Mike Hayashi is here. And since 1988, Mike has offered 1500 seminars to over a half a million women at over 525 universities and companies in 27 states and four country. All right. So this guy's been around AT&T, Motorola, Apple, Four Seasons. I mean, he's got a massive list of companies you've heard of, and he's also a retired stuntman. How do you like that one movie? He's got 45 dollars and all he could eat and how he used his martial arts skills, apparently. And as he taught high school for eight years, you know, he had a knife pulled on him twice. That's pretty good for most high school. And he holds a seventh degree karate black belt and there's only broken his ribs one time. That's excellent. And he's been on four hundred and fifty television appearance, nominated for an Emmy for his weekly cable show in Phoenix, Arizona. And I'll let him tell you about when he was attacked by two dumb, really dumb armed men. So, Mike, how are you doing, man? You ready to screw? The commute?

[00:05:23] Never better. Good to hear your voice. Oh, yeah. It's been a long time. And so. So tell everybody what you're doing now, and then we'll take you back through the ranks.

[00:05:32] And I know they're very interested in all these appearances on TV and you've made because that's publicity and that's a really good way to make yourself into a celebrity and get a lot of business. So tell me what you're doing now and then we'll take you back, because I think we're under helicopter attack now. I don't know if you hear that, but if you hear a loud explosion, they just it just a missile.

[00:05:57] I'll tell you what. Thanks for having me, Tom. Thanks for having me on. And you and I, we go back a long ways. Yeah. You know, it's funny, when when I started doing this back in the 80s, I think in 88, I figured out I am not the best karate person in the world. I figured it out really early. I'm not Chuck Norris. I'm not Jet Li. My my thought process was it Bruce Lee was alive and challenged me. He could take my he could take me out in a couple of seconds. If Jet Li came to me I would say I try, I give up. You win. If Sara Lee can't do a fight I would give it to her.

[00:06:30] Yeah. You can have maybe taken that eight year old that thought you were Jackie Chan.

[00:06:34] That's true. I could take the eight year old. I just I broke a ball and I signed the board.

[00:06:39] You know what I figured out it really early is that there are so many tremendously talented martial artists. There are so many gifted Navy SEALs and Army Rangers and and cops and and FBI. There are so many people out there that have those skill sets. So I wasn't trying to compete with them. I did for the first few years. And then I realized, you know what, I can't compete with them. I don't have their credentials as a police officer for 30 years on the beat. I don't have a Navy SEALs cross and something that I can show that I was, you know, overseas fighting in Afghanistan. But what I do have is three things. One, I love to teach. So I have a master's in education. And I I went with that route to kind of tell people I know how to teach you, you know, nothing else I can teach you. I also taught special ed for eight years in high school, Chicago and some other places so I could teach you, no matter where you are in life and or how dumb you are, all hard you are to teach. Right. I can teach you. I've been studying the martial arts since I was ten, so I got into it and I was very luckily in Japan. My father was in the Air Force. Wow. We were stationed there, walked into the youth center. Here's a judo class and karate classical. And also I got into it very.

[00:07:47] Early, just because I was there, I fell in love with it and then got into different martial arts in high school into college with a taekwondo shotokan, jujitsu Mutawa and little Taichi. And then when I got to Phoenix, Arizona, I was teaching high school and I started a karate club there and I started going to the health clubs. So some of you might want to start small. I went to the health clubs and said, listen, I can help promote your health club. Let me teach here. I can do two things. Run a martial arts class and will put me in the window so they can all see it going on. And then I'll do a self-defense class for the women. And all I want is a little PR and you can try and be, you know, rent for per month if you want. But I was helping promote that health club, having something that the other health clubs didn't have. Right. Come on in. You know, you get a personal trainer, but can self-defense classes for the for the women? There's kids classes for the karate. So I became part of their marketing plan. I took that. And when I decided to start what I do, what I've been doing for all these years, I started thinking, OK, how can I market this so that it's a little different than calling your brother who was in the Green Beret to teach you a couple of tricks.

[00:08:57] How can I be a little different than go into a police block, watch meeting you, just getting to safety tips of what not to do and when to call nine one one. So I started creating it. And when I came up with the control, it was designed for three things. One, it's designed for a person who doesn't have a lot of time. You know, this Tom who does who has time to study the way I did when I was a kid. And growing up, I was, you know, four days a week to three hours a night. Who the kids don't have that kind of time. They got soccer, they got gymnastics, they got ball. They got, you know, things going on that you and I never worried about. But the kids are more busy than ever. So I said, OK, so they don't have a lot of time. They want something at work. So I made it very streetwise. I was I didn't call it a karate class. I didn't call it a martial arts class. It was something that you watch some really street smarts. I'll make it smarter, I'll make it safer, and I'll give you a few tricks and tips that just helps you get I call it get home for supper techniques. Just get home for supper technique. I'm not going to make you blackbelt. We're not breaking boards and bricks with our heads. We're going to make you so that somebody comes at you.

[00:10:04] You know what to do before they touch you. And if they touch you, you know. So I started doing that at first. Maybe you went there out to Tom with your with your disciplines. But I started with the guys first. I was teaching police officers. I did some time teaching some FBI people, the National Guard, the sheriff's deputies. And I found here's the problem. You got egos and right all across the room. Oh, I could teach this better you get and I'll do it for free, you know, or I'll do it for half the price. So I said, OK, I'm not going to compete with this because they feel like they're the experts. They don't need it. So I started going to companies. I think Honeywell's my first. And I said, you know what, I'd love to teach the women that work at this company. You've got them going traveling internationally. They're going to airports are going to hotels. If something happens to them, what does it cost this company so. Well, OK, if you can get twenty, thirty women signed up, I'll cover it. I was talking to head of H.R. I said, OK, so I did a little demo and then two weeks later he called me, said, Mike, I got some news. Oh you didn't get thirty people signed up because. Oh no, no, we've got three hundred signed up to do.

[00:11:12] The one class room will only hold one hundred.

[00:11:15] I said Honeywell is my free first corporate gig and then I had that. I said, you know what, I want Motorola, because in those days Motorola was king, at least here in Arizona, five locations. They were the second highest employer in the valley. And so I said, I want a letter from Motorola to help me get into IBM and Apple and Intel. So I begged and pleaded.

[00:11:40] I went to every manager I could find. Here's something your listeners could take advantage of. Learn from the people have been around for a long time, like you and I. It doesn't take one phone call. Sometimes it takes universalis personality, right? Oh, I talk to every manager I could find for three or four months. In fact, a lot more on a first name basis. Now I call. How are you doing? Hey, forget it, Mike. I don't have any more money. So I got I got some guys still just hanging up on me. And then I got a call. I got this call from a woman. I didn't recognize her name. Just listen, I'd like to book you for some seminars in about a month and a half. We have a National Security and safety month going on for Motorola across the country. Yeah, and like I said, wow. I said thank you. I said, who are you again? She said, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm the head of security for the Southwest. So five different states. She said, all right. So I said, I'll have to do this. Well, how did you get my name? Because, well, I started asking around. Here's another tip. Be nice to everybody. Right? Right. I talked to so many people. A lot of them hung up on me. She said I started asking around your name, kept popping up and they said three things. One, he's very likable. People will love him when they get him in a class. Number two, he knows what he's talking about. Number three, he is persistent. It will matter what happens.

[00:12:57] He'll do whatever you need to do. And I said, OK, so all these people that were very rude on the phone, never thought about it, never hung up on them and didn't say anything. That's up next. Right. I just called the next one. I said, I'm in. She goes, Well, be careful what you wish for. She said, I have to ask you two things before you say yes. I said, shoot, she is number one. You get to travel wherever I tell you to travel whenever I tell you to travel. I said no worries. I don't mind flying those days. Like, I don't like flying. I don't mind getting up early. She's OK. Number two, you have to train every shift. All right. What does that what does that entail? Well, your first event is four a.m. Your second event is eight a.m. Your third event is noon. Your fourth is five p.m. and your last one is around eight o'clock. You should be out of here by ten. I said, wow, five events in one day. I said, you know, mine are pretty exhausting. I said, but I can do it, you know, don't worry, I'll do that. She goes, All right, we're going to do this for a month. So you've got these three weeks every day, five days a week, doing five a day. Oh, this is this is when it was like, you know, twenty degrees out at 2:00 in the morning. So I said, yes, I forget what I charge Tom, but way too little for a three and a half weeks nonstop five a day.

[00:14:14] And by the time I was done Motorola, whenever I wanted something, I just called them, they just say, hey, this guy, I'll do whatever is necessary. I did. They're each are there H.R. Directors, National International Conference. Five hundred people from around the world for five minutes. I said how much you needed. Forty five minutes and hours. You. Oh, no, no, no, no.

[00:14:35] You're going to kick the meeting off on Friday morning. We need you for five minutes, maybe six, maybe six minutes. And I don't know about you, but you're feeling you're like me. I said the less time, the harder it is. Exactly. It's hard. I said, what can I do for these five hundred directors in five minutes you might just get them on their feet, get a move and pump them up, make them happy. They flew all the way from China, Malaysia, wherever they came in from. Entertain them, but give them something to remember and take home with them. OK, so I practiced and rehearsed that. Those five minutes were tough, but I got them on their feet and you know, you learn from doing it when people ask you to do something is never been done.

[00:15:13] And there's so many good lessons here, Mike, for a lot of the generation.

[00:15:17] Coming up is is you just kept saying yes, yes, yes. In the face of people saying no, no, no. You kept saying yes, yes, yes. And then when you got your chance, you you said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then you made it happen. And look, you know, it's so many people are quit too early. You know, they they just are hard. And a lot of the the you know, the generations have always wanted to make it easier on their kids.

[00:15:46] Do we do. And you do.

[00:15:47] You can but you're going too far with that is not helping them in the long run because that's when they go to drugs and alcohol and therapy and because they can't take, you know, normal everyday pressures, you know.

[00:15:59] Exactly. But, you know. Right. And you've done this, too. You've built a reputation of you just say your name. People understand the value. The people understand the to proficient attitude you have about everything you do and everything you're going to teach. You have a following because they understand that you know what they're talking about. You're not going to be awesome. And if you that they want something that's cure and it's it's solid, you're the guy to go to. So I wanted to do the same thing. And, you know, over the years it's been you can ask my wife, it's been a roller coaster up and down, because to be honest with you, when they hear self-defense, two things. One, either, oh, I'm too old or I'm I'm not I'm not coordinated or I don't want to get hurt or I don't want to, you know, get all sweaty. They have this concept of, you know, this old style martial arts class where they put the uniform on and sweat for three hours because of their with their heads. I had to get that across. No, that's not what we're learning, because very seldom are you going to have that uniform on. Right. And be barefoot, ready to go and stretched out. I said we're talking about in a parking garage, five steps. How do you survive getting in and out of your car and to and from wherever you're headed, you know, four or five times a day for the rest of your life. How do you how do you what do you what do you do when you're in an environment? Well, all of a sudden somebody in the room becomes violent. I don't care what your spouse you know, how do you handle that? How do you control that that fear factor and get calm again? So the things I was teaching was a little different and it's following me. I get calls now from people that say, yeah, I took your class back in 91 and I'm still alive.

[00:17:32] I'm wondering, can you teach my grandchild now?

[00:17:36] Yeah. And and it's so much too about awareness.

[00:17:39] You know, everybody the thing that we said in my class, my friend was teaching with me was get your.

[00:17:47] Get out of your apps, you know, like that. I like that.

[00:17:52] Yeah, I mean, people walk down the street and they're oblivious. They're getting run over by cars, that's all.

[00:17:57] I mean, you know. Exactly.

[00:17:59] Yeah. So awareness is really important. I started out insurance through Corradi when I was a kid. And we were we were, you know, walking in the winter down streams barefoot and 300 feet off and breaking rock stuff.

[00:18:15] All right. Yeah. Yeah, tougher.

[00:18:17] Since then, I've been just a variety like you, just a variety of styles to get the job done. I don't care about the art of it. I want to walk away alive.

[00:18:26] That's exactly. Yeah. You know, and I've been attacked three times and. Yeah. Tell us about that. Knock on wood. I'm still here. I had a knife pulled on me once and I took the knife away. You know, it was a reflex reflex. It's like I didn't wait to find out. Does he want my money on my car?

[00:18:43] Does he want me? I just I just took the nice now to be able to do that with confidence and really able to distract him. That was what I did to distract him. And when you distract somebody, they're not really good with the night to begin with. You know, once you take a weapon from somebody, it's amazing how fast they move the other direction.

[00:18:59] Yeah, because, see, a lot of them are untrained and they're lowlifes and that weapon is their whole power in life. If it disappears, they like just, you know, fall apart. Most of them.

[00:19:12] Yeah. And I've had a guy come at me in a in a public place on a dance floor in a nightclub with a broken bottle in his hand, screaming like screaming and pointing at me, saying he's going to cut me up. And I found out later when I disarmed him and had the bouncers do their job, that I look like his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. And and how dare I? I'm looking and smiling at his new girlfriend while I'm dancing.

[00:19:36] Well, I smile at everybody. What have you got? You got to quit looking like people with Jackie Chan and an old boyfriend.

[00:19:44] You know, when you when you got a guy that's had a few too many. Yeah. You know, they're yeah.

[00:19:49] They're they're their thought process is a little warped. So I just happened to be looking in their direction I guess, and look like it's girlfriends. It's an ex-girlfriend, old boyfriend. I had a one time two guys, two baseball bats front behind me coming after me. I was delivering pizzas between my sophomore and junior year in college, just doing my job, running up to the door, you know, bring the peaches. And they called me back and they swung at me. I duck came up. Here's a good lesson. If something doesn't work, modify and adapt. Hit this guy Tom. I hit this guy square in the face as hard as I could the way I've been training since I was ten years old. Nothing.

[00:20:32] Nothing. He shook his head and he lifted the bat up again, swinging.

[00:20:39] So thank goodness I hit him in the throat with another technique that I learned from one of my own students and go because she had arthritis and couldn't make a fist. So we modified the technique for her. But that's when I use and dropped him, you know. But when I'm teaching people, I have to tell people, you know what? You might never, ever need the stuff, but it's good to know. It's like knowing how to change a flat tire.

[00:21:00] Yeah.

[00:21:00] I mean, and the CPR, the awareness part of it will make maybe ensure that you never have to use it, you know, because if you if you walk I mean, they did a study with show and a bunch of criminals, videos of different people and every criminal separately picked the ones that they would go after because it just the way they were walking down the street.

[00:21:23] Yeah, exactly. It's body language. Yeah. We talk a lot about body language. We talk a lot about what makes you a target. I have a whole system of what makes you and how. What's the three ways no one told me that you could not look like a target are not appear to be the target, because if they don't pick you, that's 90 percent of it. Right? Right. Exactly. Yeah. They don't go to the phone book and say, oh, I like that name. Tom Antion. I think they choose their victims very clear, just like a lion hunting for dinner. You know, they don't just pick the fast zebra running around. They they know what they look they know they're looking for.

[00:21:52] I had when I had the nightclub was when I got the most real life experience. I was in over 100 violent encounters with bikers trying to kill me, gunfights, knife fights and. Oh, yeah, yeah. But one of the one, you know, one of the things we teach is if with multiple tacker, you know, theory is don't get in the middle of two bad guys or more, you know, try to keep them, you know. So here I'm stuck with two bad guys, two bikers trying to kill me and one standing at my front door. One's in the lobby and I'm in between them. And I'm thinking, oh, man, this is not good. But, you know, in a nightclub, a lot of drunk, a little bit or high on drugs or something. So they don't have the best snow. So the one the guy in the lobby decides to attack me. And I just took one step to the side and tipped a chair and he tripped over it, knocked his buddy out the door and I locked the door. That's how I won the.

[00:22:47] Was like the Stooges, you know, I'm picturing it, I could see you doing it. Yeah, yeah.

[00:22:53] I just walked in, just tipped the chair. We call it debris, you know, making up, make them fight if they're going to get there.

[00:22:59] So. So, yeah.

[00:23:01] So you do a lot of publicity. You've been on, you know, for what is it, four hundred and fifty TV appearances, give or take.

[00:23:10] Yeah. Give or take. And then I did some stuff down in Jamaica. I really had a lot of crime in Jamaica and most of American tourists. I went down there a few times Aruba when Natalee Holloway that oh yeah, my.

[00:23:22] Was missing for whatever months and they never found the body.

[00:23:26] But I went down there because they were losing money left and right from people not going there for vacation. Right. Obviously, the kids weren't going in for spring break. That's a safe island, very safe. This was like the first murder they've had like 50 years or so. But everyone panicked when they hear the way the media handled it. The whole don't go to Aruba. It's a very safe place. But I had to convince the hotel managers and the staff how to make sure that they're promoting their hotel safely. I mean, and then trained security guards around the beach on the little four wheelers how to look for things, you know, but she made some really bad mistakes really quickly. So I the once she was missing for more than three or four weeks and she's gone because it's a small island. Right. Right. They couldn't find her in three or four weeks. She's gone. But you know, what I've done over the years, too, is I've noticed that when I'm training like I'm training right now, I'm trained privately. I mean, all the corporate gigs I had, they been pushed back.

[00:24:20] You know what to do about that. Yeah. So hopefully they'll start again next year. I've been told to call back after February, but in the meantime, do a lot of private lessons. But it was kind of nice. It's nice to do one on ones again. And I had a family, three generations, grandmother, the mother of daughters and grandkids. So I was trained to be different generations. I've got a couple of teenage boys. I want to be fighters when they get older. I've got I've got another one who was being stalked by her ex-boyfriend. That's really common stock with the ex-boyfriend. And she's just fearful for her life. She changed her name legally first, and last year she changed everything and moved to an apartment with her daughter to get away from this guy. So all she wanted for me is teach me what to do if this guy finds me somehow and this how to get away from him and get my daughter to safety. So, yeah, she everything we did, she hit really hard.

[00:25:12] I say, picture this guy. What do you think? Picture him, you know, and it's just automatic.

[00:25:19] You know, she could she could get angry really quickly. But, you know, it's nice to kind of go back to the where I started the route of doing private lessons. I can do that, you know.

[00:25:27] You know, virtually if I was going to ask you, did you try any Zoom?

[00:25:31] You know, I'm going to be doing that more. I did it a couple of times. But a lot of people are asking for private lessons or right here in the valley in Arizona. So I'm just driving to them. Yeah. You know, where masker space out of whatever you need to do. And we're going to one garage. I did another one and a huge backyard and another, and they're big then, you know, wherever they want to train their office. Here's something to like to put the word out. I did something a couple of years back and I. I should have pursued it more. I had a CEO called me. He had death threats. He's in an industry where he has to step on our toes. And over the years, he's had more than he's had multiple death threats. So he's got two Navy SEALs that travel with him everywhere. He's got a private jet. They're armed. He's not he's I don't carry I don't believe in me carry, but they have it. He said, I'm worried about the times that they're not with me. Right. Yeah. And yeah.

[00:26:25] Or at home, you know, he's worried about his kids getting kidnapped, that kind of thing. So I did a personal training with him once a week and then another separate one for his two teenage boys were huge. Six, four, six, five. And I trained with them separately, but I should have pursued them more. I was just so busy with other things that when we we ended our I should have said, hey, do you have any other CEO buddies? I could use the same thing. Yeah. Obviously the price is no object. They didn't he didn't just tell me what you need. How many weeks. He said the only thing I would ask you have to be available. He said, I fly out of town. I'm gone for two, three weeks. I'm back in town for three days. Four days. Can I call you and just say, hey, here's when I'm back here in Arizona? Can you we train what's going on these days? And so I had to kind of bend my schedule around his, but that's OK. Yeah, but I should do it. I know.

[00:27:12] Think there's going to be more of that coming because. Yeah, that's the way things are going.

[00:27:17] I'm telling you, it's horrible. I've got some horror stories. Yeah. And people are getting so angry. They're so anxious, they're so afraid of what is going to happen to their family or what's going to happen, you know, next six months. I told my wife this right when it started back in January. Whatever I tell my wife, I said, watch something. I said and we'll talk about this in a few months. I think the violence in this country, as bad as it is, is going to go up. Yeah, I said it just has too many. You know ways for the fires to get lit from both ends. I mean, there's so many angry people now.

[00:27:51] Yeah. And and nobody's nip it in the bud, like, immediately. I think it could be nipped in the bud if the people had the guts to do it. But you get some of these mayors, if they don't take over the city for a while, you have a good time, you know, and then there's bodies all over the place.

[00:28:08] And, you know, it's crazy. I've been I've been watching for news because it doesn't make the news like it used to. You have to dig for something. I found a story. They were somebody went over to check because they thought it was a gas leak. A neighbor was complaining there was a gas leak. So it's a service guy. He went over to check the house and came in, found a dead 14 year old girl and a 13 year old boy decapitated Tom Dick Cavett. The father had done it. He just went he just went berserk. He just was out of work and frustrated and angry. And the teenage boys, they were probably mouthing off as 13 or 14 as well. And he just lost it. So that little story was a little bitty.

[00:28:48] I'm sorry. I'm sitting here all day with the news on all day long. I never heard of that. You know why? There's a bunch of stuff.

[00:28:55] There's a bunch of you got it. You got to dig. I'm just amazed. And I just saw another one, too. Or just these violent acts out of nowhere are going to be popping up all the time. People are just more anxious than they have ever been, I think. And maybe maybe in our history, I don't know. But it's it's bad. And I hate to say it, it's going to get worse. So I'm teaching probably now. I can't wait for me to be able to get back out and do bigger groups.

[00:29:16] Yeah, because I'm not practical. Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine. I to do some of it personally I'm sure. But in the meantime I have two things I want to bring up. Maybe I don't want to listen to what you got coming up in the future.

[00:29:26] I've got two gentlemen that I've known longer than you. I met him back in eighty gosh. Eighty, eighty eight. Eighty seven. And he and I go way back. He's loved a train. He used to be videos and DVDs and then he did a lot of streaming training, but he's got a company that does that. But he got interested in self-defense and called me and said, listen Mike, I'm working on something. I can't even divulge what the weapon is yet. It's kind of launch, I think, early next year. But he's talking about this weapon. It's non-lethal. It keeps the guy bang. You know, he's like fifteen feet away or so. It works quickly. It's inexpensive type of weapon that's not going to cost, you know, thousands of dollars. It's not a Taser because I worked for Taser for four years after the Runaways is a different type of Taser. You know, it's different. So he's working on it, unfortunately. Right. When covid got huge at the beginning of summer is when he was going to launch this thing and everything had to come to it, slow down to almost a standstill. So I'm going to help him market it when it comes out.

[00:30:30] I'm hoping first quarter of next year. So if anybody knows groups of people, I'm thinking security guards. I'm thinking realtors, I'm thinking nurses. I'm thinking people that need something to be compact fit, you know, in their there. Yeah, it's non-lethal. So not to worry about it, I happen to have a firearms license. It works quickly. It can keep you up, you know, fifty feet out to ten feet out. If anybody has things like that, have them contact you and they can contact me. But I'm going to be looking in the next three or four months of just places we can connect with. Might be. Want to take a look at this? I know he might still be looking for investors. I think he had a few, but they might be looking for more. And there's that's one thing I'm looking at to help him promote that. Like I helped launch Taser back in the 90s. They call me and just starting out and say, hey, we need a spokesperson. So I hope that launched that for like four years now. Taser is like a household word. I think everyone.

[00:31:26] Yeah, but but do you remember seeing those those gypsies out at a Wal-Mart parking lot that were there all like eight of them were living in a station wagon and they got this big melee with the police and they were tasing them, but they were taught to roll. And that would Taser would come out of them and then they'd be back fighting.

[00:31:45] So I miss that.

[00:31:47] Not only that, but yeah, I mean, it's not 100 percent. No, it'll stop a lot of people if not expecting it and they just drop down. Yeah. You know, the thing for the police is that they get to get over that quickly and handcuff whoever it is they don't because they're not going to last forever either.

[00:32:02] I want to get I want to get some kind of sonic weapon. So so I shoot the guy with it and he's bleeding out his ears. But I never got anywhere near him. And I said, I don't know what happened to him.

[00:32:12] He just like I saw hey, I saw a movie late, late at night, one night at the weapon. They had about about 100 years in the future.

[00:32:22] The other thing I'm working on is kind of I'm looking really for people that want to be helping a large number of women in the future. It's a nonprofit.

[00:32:32] I'd be glad to help a large number of women.

[00:32:36] Not exactly what you're talking about. I mean, contact them Tom.

[00:32:40] Oh, don't be talking about high school seniors going off to college next year, huh?

[00:32:46] Mom and dad, you know, I have to say bye, they're going to UCLA and they're in Nebraska. I mean, it's scary to have your daughter take off, you know, not going to see until the Christmas Thanksgiving. So them college coeds, you know, men are, you know, kind of walking targets, you know, when they go to a fraternity party and just, you know, dorms and just going back and forth on campus at night. So them and then nurses coming out for third shift. I mean, they're tired. They're you know, they just want to go to bed and they're not paying attention. Anything. Realtor sitting in an open house, open season, you know, even.

[00:33:17] Yeah. I mean, there's such a market out there.

[00:33:19] As long as it's a nonprofit that's working on a kit that I'm helping put together for them. But they need dollars at the nonprofit. So we want to sell the kids to the parents, probably of the women going out to college or to the women's self if they're nurses or realtors or, you know, single women that travel quite a bit. And when I have something, it's a safety kit. So I like a whole collage of things for them to keep them safe traveling or in their house or apartment or in their dorm room. And I've been collecting pieces here and there to put this together as a kit. And what I like to do is be available to go out and do a self-defense workshop for whatever group it is and then have these kits available.

[00:34:00] So we're looking for. They tried crowdfunding at all?

[00:34:04] I don't think so. I don't know if that's what they want to do. I know that they have a couple of angel supporters that they angel investors, but I know they need probably a few more. And we're looking for those are philanthropists or somebody just wants a tax write on how much money they are looking for.

[00:34:18] Oh, gosh, I think we're 50, 100, 150000 somewhere in there and depends on how big we want to go.

[00:34:24] I mean, I would volunteer to teach them crowdfunding if they want to, do you know, because that's a way to raise a lot of money.

[00:34:32] And, you know, you don't have to pay back, you know. Exactly.

[00:34:35] Have any equity to give up or anything.

[00:34:38] Yeah. So if anybody wants me to do that, I just make an appointment, take me about an hour to teach them how to do it.

[00:34:45] Ok, I will. I'll keep that in mind too. I think they mentioned it, but I know that they were looking for investors to just help them because I think that's how they operate to a lot of the problems they have for school kids, for bullying and for some other things going on in schools. They have, you know, just angel investors that write the check and they can hire X amount of teachers with the amounts they have in. But I said I'd volunteer to be an instructor and go out and teach the self-defense and, you know, maybe help, help get the kids out there because they got to get them in the right hands. And it's just too difficult for them as a nonprofit to finance themselves. So. Well, keep and I'll talk to her. I'll talk to the director for you.

[00:35:21] Yeah. And have you you know, I've been teaching speakers to do fundraising because and it's not like you go speak at a charity event and then you hope somebody sees you and hires you. It's where you go to a group that's trying to raise funds and they have members and they promote your seminar to the members and then you split the money. So, you know, there's very little competition in there compared to just trying to get speaking engagements, so forth.

[00:35:54] So, yeah, yeah, there's all kinds of ways to do it.

[00:35:58] And then regular sponsorship, too, is presenting yourself to people that want to be in front of the audience that you're in front of and get the goodwill out of it. I mean, some of these I'll tell you a story about sponsorship. I had a student one time. He had this thing for kids and he had a friend in a big insurance company. My and the friend was kind of, you know, showing him the ropes on how to apply for the sponsorship from his big insurance company. And so the guy figures out he needs about a hundred thousand dollars to do this project and he takes it to his friend, the executive.

[00:36:33] And the executive says. Are you kidding me?

[00:36:38] He says if you don't if you don't come in, at least order of a million, they won't even think you're serious, right? Exactly. Some of these big companies have more. I mean, I spoke at a place they spent a million dollars on the lunch, you know, in a band. And still I mean, so so if you know how to approach them, there's a lot of money out there for for that.

[00:36:58] Yeah. The other thing I tried a couple of years ago, but it it ran out of gas, is doing a sponsorship kind of thing for doing seminars on college campuses and just somebody that has the product or the service that appeals to that age group, you know, the millennials. And yeah, the kids are, you know, 18 to 27 in that group or the moms and dads are, you know, write the checks myself. But if I a sponsor for that, I would do that more often as well. I did it for issue several times. But, you know, you have to have something consistent. I can't just, you know, block out time all over the calendar.

[00:37:33] Right. You know, and I can't there's no way you can charge a college kids. They're not going to go, right? Yeah. They were living, you know, from year to year.

[00:37:40] So, you know, but yeah, I need time.

[00:37:43] I've got to get some ideas for the specific college to again. But, you know, I mean, there's been kind of been put on hold these last few months because of what's going on.

[00:37:50] Yeah. Especially when it's a physical thing that you have to do with this. Exactly. So how did he tell you what's ahead? Yes. So how do people get a hold of you?

[00:37:59] You know, easiest way nowadays is just call me a text me at my number 480 221 0044. Or they can just email me at mike@takecontrolselfdefense.com.

[00:38:18] Yeah. We'll have all of these in the show notes for you because these have a long life so they'll be able to get a hold of you. So. So thanks so much for coming on. That's good catching up with you.

[00:38:28] Hey, I've got about 30 other topics I'd like to go with you at some point.

[00:38:32] Oh, yeah. We can do a whole series.

[00:38:35] There's a lot of stuff going on this country Tom, you know, to it's just and it's going to get worse.

[00:38:39] I hate to say it. It's going to get worse. It got worse from July to now. I mean, it's never been worse. And I hate to say it's going to get worse violence wise. People are just edgy. They're just angry. They're just frustrated. It just, you know, looking to to to take it out on somebody. So unfortunately, because everybody's at home, a lot of them are taken out on their spouses. Kids.

[00:38:58] Yeah, that's the worst. And that's that's one of the big arguments is shutting the schools down, you know. Yeah. These kids aren't eating right and they're in the parents.

[00:39:09] One of the parents has to quit their job if they had a job and stay home. So that's more financial pressure. And then the abuse is, if it did happen, would not be reported.

[00:39:20] You know, nobody nobody ever reported. Nobody ever reports it like one out of maybe eight to one. Yeah.

[00:39:25] I mean, if they were in school and somebody saw bruises, then maybe somebody could do something, you know, but.

[00:39:31] Yeah, exactly. It's and what's going to be bad is that what is it. Thirty one hundred people died one day last a couple of days ago. If they that that doesn't get any better. We're talking I did the math. It's like a million one point one million people in the next year are going to be dead if it continues. And who knows how long the vaccine's going to take to take effect. I don't even know how long it will take for.

[00:39:51] But you get one shot. They're not. Yeah. Is they're not going back to the second shot. A lot of people go for one and I'm not going back. Oh, and now they're running out of dry ice already. It just started drying up to dry ice.

[00:40:06] Well, I wish we could pick the people that died.

[00:40:09] Yeah. I don't know how to talk to them. I got a few. Yeah. Make it like I got that guy that attacked me when I was delivering pizzas. I had to find him again. All right, man.

[00:40:22] Well, yeah, we'll have you back and get you to drop me off the list of topics and regularly because I'd love to.

[00:40:30] It's going to be needed more and more and more. And, you know, I have the brutal self-defense class, but it's just like I said, and a lot of people, until something happens, they don't think about it. I can't happen to me. Well, now. Yeah, I can.

[00:40:44] Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't think about CPR unless he's choking and falls off the boat, you know, so it always happens. OK, but he's all right yourself. And let's say I was you your list. Yeah. And we'll, we'll put it, we'll put something together. I'd love to do this. It's fun.

[00:40:57] Awesome. All right.

[00:40:58] Good talking to you man. OK, Tom take care yourself. Take care. Everybody, we will catch you on the next episode. See ya Later.

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