473 – Stay away from saboteurs: Tom interviews Emily Harman

Episode 473 – Emily Harman
[00:00:08] Welcome to Screw the Commute. The entrepreneurial podcast dedicated to getting you out of the car and into the money, with your host, lifelong entrepreneur and multimillionaire, Tom Antion.

[00:00:24] Hey, everybody it's Tom here with episode four hundred and seventy three, Screw the Commute podcast. I'm here with Emily Harman. Now, this is not the Emily Harman that's the tennis coach at West Virginia University. And although she played basketball for the for the Navy, she's not the Emily Harman that's currently at Veritas Collegiate Academy in Chesapeake, Virginia. This is the Emily Harman and she loves pottery. She loves watercolor. But she spent 38 years in the Navy and now she's out there screwing the commute and going to give you great tips on handling your life because she's had some ups and downs that she's going to tell us about and she's overcome that can help you in both your personal and your business life. So we'll have her on in a minute. All right. Hope you didn't miss Episode 472. This was an iPhone and Android tip episode, which I have them every once in a while. I don't really have an android, but most of the things an iPhone will do in Android will do. But I just can't stand when people are fighting with their technology instead of making products and selling things. So if you get a little bit better all the time handling this stuff, you can spend the bulk of your time making money and a lot less time fighting with the technology. And, well, I'm talking about that. I might as well tell you about my automation ebook. This is something that's allowed me to handle 150000 subscribers and 65000 customers without pulling my hair out. And we give it to free we sell it for 27 bucks.

[00:02:02] But for listening to the show, you can download it at screwthecommute.com/automatefree. And I will just say you're welcome right now, because if you do even a portion of what's in this book, you're going to thank me. And while you're over there, pick up a copy of our podcast app at screwthecommute.com/app where you can put us on your cell phone and tablet and take us with you on the road. Now, how would you like me to send you big checks or PayPal or gold bullion or if I even knew how to do it, the cryptocurrency? I don't even know that we're glad to do that in our affiliate or referral program. So if you'd like to know about that, just email me at Tom@screwthecommute.com and we'll give you details on how you can make big commissions by referring our stuff. All right. And the last thing before we bring Emily on is I'm really, really excited and proud about the program. I'm running to help persons with disabilities get educated and get hired or start their own business. So I have a go fund me campaign for scholarships for these folks. And I'd love if you could help out any little bit helps. But if you're really flush with cash, you could actually sponsor a person yourself. I kind of equate it to, you know, getting your name up on a library or a park bench or something where you really help change the life of somebody.

[00:03:27] You can check that out. Of course, this will all be in the show notes. IMTCVA.org/disabilities. At the top. There's Click the Go Fund Me link and you can see some of the people that are already in the program and they're progressing nicely because of the generosity of all the folks has been helping. And also we're going to use some of the money to hire folks with disabilities to help run the program. Then the big picture is once I prove the concept that I can get these people hired or in their own business, I'm going to roll it out really big for foundations and grants and help loads of people is when one of my crowning glories in on earth is to help other people.

[00:04:10] All right, let's get to the main event. Emily Harman's here. She's a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, and Emily served her country for 38 years. And that's hard to believe because she doesn't look like she's more than 30. So I don't know. You're not supposed to lie when you're in the military. But anyway, we'll have her on a minute. And she was a naval officer. And Emily's coaching now is focused on helping men and women create a life they love living while achieving new heights of authentic success in their personal and professional life. Emily, are you ready to screw? The commute?

[00:04:47] I sure am.

[00:04:49] After 38 years in the military, somebody is ready to do something. Oh, boy. But so happy to have you on here. I know I met you on a podcast mastermind, and I was kind of sheepish to tell you I turned down an appointment to the Naval Academy because I don't think I'd have lasted too long jogging to class. But anyway, thanks so much for your service. We really appreciate all the people in our military. A very we actually have a September is Vittrup another month. So we'll have lots of folks on and in September. But anyway, tell everybody what you're doing now and then we'll take you back and see how you came up through the ranks.

[00:05:29] Ok, that sounds great. What I'm doing right now is I'm a personal life coach and I really enjoy that. I, I help. Because my last job was in the area of government contracting, I was a contracting officer for the for the Navy and I was also the head of small business. I help small business owners also who want to do business with the federal government and want to create a lifestyle business. And I also help men and women who just, you know, want to create a life that they love living. And part of that, in my mind, is not having to commute is creating a lifestyle business. And that's what I'm doing myself. I'm not a billionaire yet. Like your last guest.

[00:06:10] Well, you know, maybe if you'd you know, I was thinking about starting my own missile company or drone company, and you could teach me how to sell them to talk to them. You can become a billionaire. OK, no trouble. Now, I know you're relatively new to knowing me, but I have dragged on life coaches in the big dogs in the background. We have some rescue dogs here in my protection dogs. Somebody is at the door, so we're going to just forget about them.

[00:06:40] So you've dragged on life coaches and life coaches have helped me change my life in the past two years.

[00:06:46] No, I what I dragged on was, were people that never did a darn thing in their life and want to be your life coach. Oh, I see. You know, the problem is, is there's so many people see, oh, it's easy money. Just talk to people and and get rich and a professional person that's actually lived a life. And you when we get it. You really lived a life. That's a different story. You know what I'm afraid of? There's a lot of the legitimate life coaches get lost in the shuffle of all these these ragtag people that are just trying to ruin the industry. That's that's what I'm talking about.

[00:07:25] Yeah, that's true. I can understand that. And I'm actually in a certification program which somebody some people might say, well, you don't need to be certified as a coach. You have all this life experience. But I'm really finding this certification program worthwhile. And by February, I'll be a international coaching federation certified coach. And the training is awesome. And I really highly recommend anyone looking for a coach to work with somebody who's either in the certification program are already certified.

[00:07:58] Well, yeah, and that's shown professionalism and learning your craft and going deeper and deeper. Nothing. I wouldn't I wouldn't expect any less from a two star admiral, which is you're one of the best six the graduating classes from the Naval Academy. Is that correct?

[00:08:17] Right. My female. Yeah, we graduated in 1985. We were the sixth class of women. And I was I retired as a senior executive, which is the I was the equivalent of a two star admiral on as a civilian. And and my last job was the director of the Office of Small Business Programs advising Navy, senior Navy and Marine Corps senior leadership on how to create more opportunities for small businesses to do business with the federal government.

[00:08:45] Yeah, but that's cool. But what I want to know is, is that level of a two star admiral, can you just jump on a ship and say, hey, let me drive for a little bit? No, no.

[00:08:56] You have to have the training, just like a coach has to have the training.

[00:09:01] Now, were you allowed to take Pearl to work with?

[00:09:03] You know, my dog? Actually, I did some time and I couldn't sneak into the Pentagon, but I had an office at the Navy Yard and I took her in sometimes, especially on the weekends when I had to work, sometimes on a Friday. Yeah, my dog came to work.

[00:09:18] Yeah. But I don't think your dog has the work ethic that you had because you're hallers and a backpack, you know, and stuff making her walk.

[00:09:26] Yeah. She flat.

[00:09:30] So now tell us about this onward movement that you're involved with that's got some military connection onward and upward or gung ho or.

[00:09:41] Well, it really it really doesn't, you know, so after after working for the Navy for 38 years and when I when that time counts as my four years at the Naval Academy, my and then seven years active duty and the rest as a civilian. And I also was a naval reservist for thirteen years. So anyway, you add that all up, I retired and I called my retirement at graduation. That was in May of twenty nineteen and I called it a graduation because I felt like I was graduating onto the next phase of my life and bigger and better things and everyone kept telling me what I should do. You should go be a consultant for where you should go work for a small business or large business that does business with the Navy in the Marine Corps. You should. You should. You should. And I was like done with doing what other people wanted because I had yeah, I'd raise my kids and they were finally out of the house. It's like I just finally I want to do what I want to do. But then something happened that really and what I wanted to do is host a podcast, which I do, and then and then be a coach and then something happened which made me help me figure out what I wanted to coach about and

[00:10:52] What happened on campus in a surprise or what.

[00:10:55] What happened is after I retired within three weeks, my daughter called me and she said, Mom, dad has cancer. And my kid's dad was sixty three at the time and he lived five more months. And then he passed away. And after about two weeks after he was diagnosed with cancer, he became paralyzed and both of his arms. And I helped take care of him, even though we had been divorced since two thousand. And but I helped take care of him. My daughter helped take care of him. And even though he had been verbally abusive to me and my children, I just saw him die with regrets. And I decided I do not want to die with regrets. I want to create a life that I really love living. I mean, I enjoyed working for the Department of the Navy, but did I love commuting to work that I love going into work every day? Did I wake up every day and say, yes, I get to do this? Not not all the time. And so that's when I decided, you know, I just it was just hit me really hard and about how short life is and. Well, what it's like there that

[00:11:59] You're kind of an angel on Earth because I don't know if it was me and he couldn't use his arms, I would beat the heck out of me.

[00:12:07] But, yeah, it was it was it was really hard to see him in that sick. And some people have said that. Yes, because he wasn't the nicest person.

[00:12:16] Probably brought it on himself. Yeah. Either karma or just all the bad stuff that happens to you physically when you're mentally messed up.

[00:12:25] Yeah, he had a lot of stress and he was he had anxiety, which, you know, at the time in the early, late 1990s, we didn't really have a term for that. I don't think as much. And but whatever he he you know, he I have his files at my desk and a whole bunch of them are on retirement. And what he was going to do when he retired and he never got to do that. And because he just kept working. And so I decided I'm going to create a lifestyle business. And the upward movement is all about people that joined that onward movement want to create one to like release the fear of judgment, what other people say about them or what they should do or their life decisions, release that fear of judgment and create a life that you love with confidence. And that's what that's about. There's about fourteen hundred people in my Facebook group and I post a lot of free content in there. And then I also have some coaching programs for people who want to go deeper into that.

[00:13:21] All right. Yeah, and we'll talk about them. But but I'm interested in the mechanism because you've been known to say when I became an empty nester and had time for myself, I realized I didn't know how to dream again, even though who I was. Yeah. How did you find out or did you?

[00:13:41] You know, I worked with coaches that because what I thought is I knew that I was busy. I was somebody who was very busy all the time. I kept going, trying to achieve, achieve the next thing, achieve the next thing. I'll find happiness with the achieving the next thing. None of that ever really brought me lasting happiness. I never really celebrated any of my accomplishments. I always was moved on and moved on to the next thing. And and then when it came, I had finally had time to dream about what I what I wanted to do. It's like I don't even know who I am anymore and what do I like. I've been so busy that I don't even know how to feel. If you ask me what I'm feeling, I could tell you happy, sad. But I mean, that's about it. I didn't couldn't name my feelings so and I thought that my busyness would go away once I retired and I had a lot of free time. But what I discovered is that I became even busier than I was when I worked for the Navy, because that is one of my saboteurs is, you know, a hyper achiever, restless. And I've learned that in mental fitness coaching program that I was in, these are like my saboteurs in my brain that you have to keep achieving. If you achieve the next thing, then you'll be happy the next thing, then you'll be happy. And I was really surprised, actually, to realize that I didn't slow down when I retired. And so I worked with coaches to better understand the habits and the patterns in my life. And I actually came to realize that just like my son, who's twenty eight and been sober for five years, just like he turned to alcoholism to avoid some of his feelings. I didn't know this, but I didn't realize it. But I turned to busyness to avoid my feelings.

[00:15:28] Well, it's easier on your liver, but it might have the same deleterious effect.

[00:15:34] Right. So I learned how I didn't know how to just be like to just sit and enjoy the present moment. I really didn't know how to do that. And I had to work at it and better understand myself and the different layers and patterns that had been ingrained in me. And I think that the hyper teething started when I played basketball as a young kid. I was the leading scorer in Maryland, D.C. and Virginia. And after every game, my dad would say, great game. Now, you remember that time when you went right, you should have gone left. And so I took that in and I was always trying to improve and do better and never really congratulate myself for the fact that I scored 40 points in that game. Well, you know, wow.

[00:16:20] Yeah, that's a tough thing because, you know, a lot of people, myself included, want to use the the Japanese concept of cars in continuous improvement. Yeah, but you can take it too far, I guess, is what you're saying.

[00:16:36] Right. Right. And I did that. And so, you know, it's sometimes, you know, it's easy to look at somebody else and and see some of their issues or problems or challenges, but it's a lot harder to look at ourselves and notice what we really need to work on. And that's why, you know, working with the coach to help me help me with that. And now I'm able to instead of being in, like, push energy all the time when I started my business, like, push, push, push, I've got to got to find clients. I got to do this. I got to do that. And then more flow. And I'm more in the present moment. And when I'm in a better flow state and I have a vision and I have a goal, but I don't like press to get there, I don't have to work harder to get there. Things just start to happen that take me towards accomplishing that goal without having to push.

[00:17:27] And also, having been through this, it makes you infinitely better, coach, than a lot of these schmucks that are out there.

[00:17:34] Yeah, I think, you know, just having been through that, having been a single parent was my career having, you know, gone through what I did with my son for ten years with his alcoholism and my daughter with her anxiety. I have a lot of I have a lot that I can give back and help others.

[00:17:52] Well, there's one stressor that I'll bet you you don't even realize that I noticed just from studying you from afar before this interview.

[00:18:01] What is it?

[00:18:03] Wearing a totally white uniform, yeah, I couldn't eat anything ever again if I had white on. I never wear white, I wear black all the time. That way I spill this on it. No problem. How does how do people get by with wearing white?

[00:18:23] I know even white shoes that we had to follow. You always have a clean one in the closet form with you, and if you go, you always bring another one.

[00:18:32] I saw you shaking hands with Ronald Reagan. I mean, what if you had just spilled ketchup?

[00:18:40] You couldn't have done that. That was graduation day shaking his hand. That was pretty cool. You know, supposed to only shake the hands of the first 100 graduates, and that would not have been me. So he stayed and shook everyone's hand from left to right to left to right. All I mean, for twelve hundred people.

[00:18:59] Amazing. That's a beautiful story. There were that before. So. So tell us more about how you're training and positive intelligence and your mental acuity can help people in their business.

[00:19:14] Ok, well, with I'll start with this mental fitness coaching, I ended up taking this mental fitness coaching program through that's taught by Shazad Sharmin, Sherzad Shameen, and he wrote this book called Positive Intelligence Why Only 20 percent of Teams and Individuals Achieve Their True Potential. And I enjoyed the program so much. It's a six week program that I ended up coaching it myself. And now I'm in a getting certified in it and getting trained by Sherzad to go even deeper into it. But I do coach it now. And it's basically there's an assessment you can take, which is on my website, EmilyHarman.com that will tell you what your top saboteurs are. And what Sherzad says is we each have a judge, saboteur and the judge judges circumstances as either good or bad or terrible, great judges, other people and judges ourselves. We're all familiar with that inner critic. We're not always as familiar with how much we judge other people and situations. And and then that judge will go and recruit one of our other saboteurs mine. My top ones are hyper achiever, restless and pleaser. I tend to have a people pleaser. Sabater notice I don't say I am a hyper achiever or I am a people pleaser because that would be commanding to the universe and determined saying that's what I am. I say I have a hyper achiever saboteur and they reside in the right, the left side of our brain. It's kind of reptilian brain, you know. So something happens. We get laid off from work and the judge says this is bad and recruits are victims.

[00:21:02] Sabater, that tells us how worse it even is. And it's kind of like leaving our hand on a on a hot stove. We're our saboteurs cause all of our stress, our anxiety, our pain. And the longer we leave our hand on that hot stove, the worst it gets. So how do we catch ourselves and switch to more of the right side of our brain to more of a sage response to getting curious? Hmm, I lost my job, but maybe that's not bad because maybe now is the time that I can create my lifestyle business. Maybe it's not bad because maybe, you know, something else better will come along. Let's not all of a sudden say it's bad. How do we get curious? And I've led a couple of groups of people through this. I've just started coaching in it and one woman's a business owner and the federal government space. And she told me she was so stressed from her company, finding clients and just all the things of running a small business that she was couldn't sleep at night. And during the entire six week coaching program, there was only two nights where she didn't sleep through the night and eat on each of those nights. She was able to get herself back to sleep much quicker than she normally would have. So it's a way to help that program as a way to help know yourself better and to switch out of that saboteur mode, which causes all of our pain and discontent and unhappiness, and switch to more of a safe side, which definitely helps when you're running a business.

[00:22:41] Well, yeah, in the sleep. You know, I used to do a program called Sleep is Overrated because I thought people were sleeping their life away. But I've changed my attitude about it because there's just too much science that says that you're kind of screwed. If you get enough sleep, then of course, everybody's different on the total amount that they they need. And I guess it varies with age, but stress and sleep don't really go together, that's for sure. So to boil that down, if people could use this mental fitness to reduce their stress about life in general, they'd be able to make better decisions in their business. And you know what, though? You said people got fired. Most people I don't have any studies to support this, but I've talked to tens of thousands of entrepreneurs. Most people will say that when they got fired, it was a disaster. But afterwards it was the best thing that ever happened to them. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:40] So, you know, shoreside tells us, and I think he's right, you know, you can find a gift or an opportunity in any life circumstances. So the sage attitude is to the sage responses to what's the gift or an opportunity in this instead of focusing all on on the negative. And so, you know, physical fitness is something we all know we're at. If we're out of shape, if we try to climb a big hill and we're breathing heavily, the mental fitness, you know, is is harder to notice except for if you're under stress a lot, you don't have to be under that stress. This program will definitely help with eliminating that stress and changing your your mindset. And, you know, I used to think, well, this is just how I am. It's in my DNA. I get stressed over these these things. Or am I? You know, I used to think I am a hyper achiever. I can't change it. We can change things about ourselves that if we make an intention to do so,

[00:24:36] That's for sure. Now, we've got to take a brief sponsored break. When we come back, we'll ask Emily what a typical day looks like for her nowadays and how she stays motivated when she's not under the gun of being in the military, which, you know, I went to ROTC for Air Force or something. And I think they kicked me out of that for not shaving my beard. I don't know, it wasn't really cut out for it, but I can't imagine the stress that goes with that. So, folks, yeah, I just want to bring back up again. I'm not going to talk about my mentor program or anything. I'm just totally enamored with the thought of helping these people change their lives. You know, people with disabilities have three point seven times the average of depression, four times the number of suicide attempts from the normal regular population and the highest level of unemployment in the past seven years. So I know I can do something about this, especially with your help, because my school not only allows them to study from home legitimately, that allows them to work from home legitimately. And I've been preaching this for twenty three years. And if there's any silver lining with the pandemic now, the whole world knows you can work from home. It's like, oh, we can work from home. I never thought of that. So. So yes you can. And so can they.

[00:25:59] For me to jump in the Suburban and go to 7-Eleven and back is fifteen minutes for a person with physical disabilities, it could be an hour, hour and a half just to get ready to think about getting in a vehicle and going to 7-Eleven. It's a two hour trip. They've been dealt a hand that many of us haven't. And so I'm going to do something about it. And whether you help me or not, I'm still going to do something about it. But I hope you decide that this would be a worthy thing to contribute to check it out at IMTCVA.org/disabilities and you'll see the Go Fund Me link at the top. Check it out. And if you think it's good and and please, even if you can't afford to help out, share the thing so that more and more people see it and will really be helping some folks out.

[00:26:47] All right, let's get back to the main event. Emily Harman is here. She is quite a unique lady, equivalent of a two star admiral in the Navy. Thirty eight years of her life dedicated to serving our country, and now she's serving it in a different way. Emily, what's a typical day look like for you to have some kind of morning routine? What time do you get up? What do you eat? Exercise the whole bit? What's it like on Tom?

[00:27:13] Well, I don't like to set an alarm anymore. Yeah, I, yeah, I like to wake up when I wake up, which is usually between seven and eight.

[00:27:23] Oh. What are you what it's like. Yeah.

[00:27:26] Sometimes I set an alarm if I have a really early meeting or something I try not to and I do some meditation in the morning. I have a journal where I do some journaling, I just spend some quiet time reviewing my upcoming day touching base with myself and how I feel making sure that, you know, what I'm going to be doing that day aligns with my values and making sure that I'm making decisions based on what I want to do, not on the people pleasing aspect of things. And so that's how I start my day. And I also have coffee. And for the most part, I go to the gym in the morning. Sometimes I might wait until the evening, but I work out every day. I belong to the local YMCA, so I like it depends on what classes they're offering, but I love to swim. What I recently discovered is Tai Chi and I would have never been able to do Tai Chi before I graduated or retired because and before I did some of this inner work, because I would have thought, this is boring. It's a waste of time. I would be. My mind would be racing to my to do list, I wouldn't have been able to enjoy being in the moment, doing that slow moving taichi and now I love it. I love going to those class.

[00:28:51] Well, let me let me jump in here for a second, because I was I was doing a speech, you know, I was actually wasn't. Yeah, I was taking some executive courses at Chinese University in Hong Kong a long time ago. And my my sleep's all messed up for jet lag and everything. I wake up and I'm looking out the window and there's a bunch of people walking down the street carrying paroquet cages. Am I dreaming? And they go out into this park that I could see from my window and they put the parakeet down and they started doing touch. So, yeah. So, yeah, I can see how that high achiever would have trouble.

[00:29:33] Yeah. Even like this is just what are we doing. I don't even get it. And I don't have time for this. I have a lot to do. In fact, I actually had a coach who I told her I wanted to slow down, but I don't know how I wanted to be, but I just don't even know what that looks like. And so she wanted me to do meditation for 15 minutes a day. Well, first of all, she said, how much time do you have? And she had, like in this online questionnaire, like 15 minutes all the way up to an hour. And the hyper achiever, Emily wanted to say an hour. I could I can meditate for an hour, but I knew myself. So I said fifteen minutes. And then I met with her every other week and she'd say, Well, what day are you on in the meditation day two? Why, you don't understand. I'm busy. I have a lot to get done. I'm starting my own company. I have a I'm busy. She was patient with me. Finally, I did the 40 days and it changed my life. I really it changed my habits. My and I really realized that on the days that I meditate for and do the exercises that she said it's not it's kind of like a moving meditation. It's not sitting still for fifteen minutes. But on the days that I do that, my whole day goes so much better.

[00:30:46] Oh, that's great. Hey, you still shooting any hoops?

[00:30:49] No, my brother used to live here and I'd go shoot hoops with his kids and that was fun. But I had two knee surgery so I don't get out there and really play anymore. But that's my typical day and I, I pretty much try to block Mondays and Fridays so that if I wanted to take a long weekend, I can do that. I'd love to hike. I go hiking. So every day is a little different. But, you know, I meet with clients. I host my own podcast called the N-word Podcast, which is all about facing adversity, moving forward and discovering ourselves along the way. In fact, I've interviewed two people, three people that are had spinal cord injuries, and one of them is my roommate from the Naval Academy, his daughter, who's getting ready to be racing in Tokyo and the Paralympics. Wow, I'm cycling. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing her compete on on video, I guess.

[00:31:43] Yeah, right. Yeah. So what's your main source of motivation?

[00:31:50] Self. I don't really have to I have to kind of push, you know, we were in that mastermind, we were talking about what are we going to accomplish this week? And my main thing is, what am I going to not accomplish by going to not do so? I don't know what where I think it comes from. You know, my mom was always doing always had a lot on her To-Do list. And so it's just kind of ingrained in me, in fact. You know, when I look back on it, on my first few weeks of being retired, I would think to myself, I could go hiking today. It's kind of like it's sad. It's kind of like the elephant. That's the baby elephant that's chained up and it doesn't realize it can't get away. And then it when it becomes an adult, it still doesn't realize it could just get away. Yeah. And that's how it was initially when I retired. It's like, oh, I don't have to be sitting at my desk 24/7. I'm retired.

[00:32:51] Yeah, this has got to be crazy feeling, I mean, I can only imagine because I never had a job, but wow, wow, wow, I would never refer to you at all as any type of elephant. So glad you brought that up. Not me, but. But tell everybody how they find your stuff.

[00:33:12] I just go to EmilyHarman.com, and that's where you have information on my one word accelerator coaching program, which helps you really get to know yourself better. Find your passion if you're you're thinking, I want to screw this commute and start your own your own business, you might want to do some introspection first and get to understand yourself better. I think the better we understand ourselves, the better leaders we are of ourselves and other people. So that program link is in there. So is my mental fitness coaching and just the link to join the Onward Movement Facebook group and to listen to the Onward podcast.

[00:33:52] Beautiful, beautiful. Well thanks so much Emily, for coming on. Quite a unique lady you are. And again, thanks so much for the service to our country, which just is over the top. I wouldn't expect anything less from a high achiever that can score 40 points in. All right, check it out, folks. EmilyHarman.com and check out all these great things and get your mind right. Get your on a path in your in your life efforts and your businesses will thrive along with it. All right. Thanks, Emily.

[00:34:29] Thank you, Tom.

[00:34:30] All right. Everybody we'll catch you on the next episode. See you later.

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