775 – Engineer Attorney Fashion Expert: Tom interviews Christine Vartanian

Episode 775 – Christine Vartanian
[00:00:08] Welcome to Screw the Commute. The entrepreneurial podcast dedicated to getting you out of the car and into the money, with your host, lifelong entrepreneur and multimillionaire, Tom Antion.

[00:00:24] Hey everybody, it's Tom here with episode 775 of Screw the Commute podcast. I'm here with Christine Vartanian and she is a woman of many talents. She was an engineer, an attorney. But her biggest accomplishment is being a great mom and she's a fashion expert now. And she's going to she also can set up to make you look really great on these Zoom calls and all these other things you're doing remotely. So we'll bring her on in a minute. Hope you didn't miss Episode 773. That's another West Coast person, Richard Rosser. And we had a long conversation. He's a Hollywood guy that has great stories of all the shows. He's been an assistant director on, and he wrote a book called ChatGPT Simplified and had a blast on that call. That was 773. And anytime you want to go to back episode, you go to screw the commute.com and then slash and then the episode number his was 773. So make sure you follow me at tiktok.com/@digitalmultimillionaire on TikTok and pick up a copy of our automation book at screwthecommute.com/automatefree. All right. Also quick announcement. Our podcast app is in the app Store. It's only for iOS right now, but pretty soon we'll have it for Android also. And you can pick up a copy at screwthecommute.com/app. You can do all kinds of cool stuff with it.

[00:01:52] All right. Let's get to the main event. We got Christine Vartanian here. She's founder of Jade House of Style, a full service brand and style building company located in Newport Beach, California. She's also the host of the podcast Waist Up Wardrobe that streams live weekly. And also she she happens to be a homemade tomato pasta specialist. I don't know. I got that from and and and a fairy godmother to to her clients So so Christine how are you doing?

[00:02:27] I'm doing great, Tom It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

[00:02:30] Oh, it's my pleasure. I had a blast on your show. I tried to talk you out of having me, actually, because I thought you must be blind. A blind fashion person. Because if you see the way I dress all the time. So glad you could. Glad you could make it. Now, here's the thing, Christine, about you. You know, I know you started out as a civil engineer and they've always been noted as fashionistas. Right? So how in the heck did you get from civil engineer to to fashion expert in in California, no less?

[00:03:11] I know it is. It was the scenic route, let's just say. And it does feel like, okay, wait, which brain do you actually work with? But the way that all came about is when I was about to go to college, I my dream was really to be an architect. I wanted to design buildings. And the college I went to, UCI was right next to home. And my dad was a very traditional guy and didn't want me to go far away from home. And he said, Just pick a major at UCI. And I thought that, well, civil engineering seems pretty close to architecture. Which one is more left brained, one's more, you know, right brained. But I decided, okay, well, let me just go into civil engineering. And that's how I landed in the civil engineering school. And I got my degree and then was almost off to architecture school as I got into a graduate program. But then my dad, who, you know, liked to, you know, guide me in what to do, said, no, you're never going to make money doing being an architect. You need to go to law school. So I went to law school and I practiced law for a couple years.

[00:04:21] Young lady, I guess.

[00:04:23] Well, I was I definitely valued my parents advice, but it wasn't really my dream at the time, you know.

[00:04:31] What kind of law did you go in?

[00:04:32] So I practiced in the construction defect law industry because it related, you know, I had this civil engineering background and I was able to really use it. It was nice to be able to use the engineering background in my work. And so that that was cool.

[00:04:48] Well, you have made a fortune on that. Remember when that building collapsed in? I think it was Miami or Florida or something? The big apartment building. Yeah. That might have had a few defects. I don't know.

[00:05:00] Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was that was a very tragic accident, you know, So just and, and civil engineering, like, really wasn't my gift. Like, I always knew I would do something that was creative. And after I when I was about to start, when my husband and I were about to start my family, we decided that I stay home with the kids to raise them. So I ended up staying home for ten years to be a stay at home mom. And, well, that's creative.

[00:05:31] You created for kids, right?

[00:05:33] Yeah. Yeah. And nurtured them and and raised them up, which is, you know, I feel like is such a undervalued job, you know.

[00:05:45] Yeah. So that was 10 or 12 years or so.

[00:05:48] Yeah. And so I'm trying to kind of get you through. I'm taking you through the entire scenic route. I hope it's not too scenic. And no, I like it.

[00:05:56] I like it. But what I like to know is, you know, a woman is smart as you and able to be a civil engineer and an attorney. Being a stay at home mom, you're what did you do to keep your mind sharp from changing diapers? Which is not that hard, I guess. I did one in my whole life, so maybe it is hard.

[00:06:23] Moms would argue that that's probably harder than anything else, actually. Well, here's the thing. I believe that when you educate a woman, you educate an entire family, you educate a lot of different people, you educate a man, you educate a man. And that's really important. But a woman has a way of creating a ripple effect. So I used to get this question all the time. It's like, wow, all the education you're staying at home. Well, I wasn't staying at home eating bonbons, was I was at home, um, really molding my children every single step of the way. And I look at my kids today who my oldest is 22, my youngest is 12. And though I still have some years to go in raising them, I look at them. And really what I get to do is I get to stand back and admire my work. That was the most important work of my life. Now, how to stay sharp. They kept me on my toes. I will tell you, it's physical, emotional, mental and everything when you're taking care of toddlers and babies.

[00:07:25] Well, speaking of speaking of bonbons, you got number two in Miss Health and fitness just eked out by somebody else. I don't know who, but you. A lot of mothers with four kids just let themselves go. How did you how did you decide to keep your physical health up?

[00:07:47] You know what? That is a perfect question that leads to me to to why and how I became I started my business in the style industry. So when I was a stay at home mom, I noticed how a lot of my peers started because they were taking care of children and families, that they neglected themselves, whether they worked in and out of the house, like some of them were working moms or some were stay at home moms, they neglected themselves. They decided that, you know, they will live in service to their children, their husbands, their work for the community. But they decided that it wasn't important enough for them to take care of themselves. And I was like, no, no, ladies, you can do all those things, but you have to take care of yourself first because you are the source of all of it. You are the source. If you can anchor yourself in health and wellness and taking care of yourself, then you will. Everybody else around you will be happier for it. And you will be happier too. So that's why what I decided that I was going to be a a resource for women to uplevel their wardrobe, to uplevel their the way they dress and the way they showed up outside of the home, even during even if they are at home to, to show up in their with their best foot forward so that they can elevate their emotional vibration. Because when you get dressed up, your emotional vibration is instantly elevated. You feel great about yourself.

[00:09:19] And it sounds like the old cliche of the, you know, put your oxygen mask on first.

[00:09:24] Yeah, exactly. That is exactly that is exactly the perfect metaphor for it. For it. You take care of yourself so that you are capable of filling everybody else's cup.

[00:09:35] So do you get dressed up for you work out of your home, right?

[00:09:39] I do.

[00:09:40] Do you get dressed up as if you're going to work every day?

[00:09:44] Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially. Especially when I'm on camera. Of course. Right. Because, of course, put my best face forward. Yeah, but.

[00:09:52] You only have to dress half of yourself, don't you?

[00:09:54] Yeah, we stuff. But I actually do dress fully.

[00:09:58] That's why it's called waist up. Wardrobe is your podcast, right?

[00:10:01] Exactly. Exactly.

[00:10:03] You have more than one podcast because I get different. I've seen a couple different things out there. For me, yeah, Once I looked for waist up and it came with a vent up. Is that was that you also.

[00:10:15] No, that is not me. I am strictly my podcast is strictly waist up. Wardrobe, Waist up. And the overarching business that encompasses waist up wardrobe. Because I have multiple offers that I do and multiple things I do for my clients is the Jade House of Style. It's the house that houses everything you need to know for your brand, even everything you need to have for your brand.

[00:10:38] Okay, good. Cleared. Cleared that up. Now I want to get to know you a little bit more. You lived in Egypt, but says most of your childhood.

[00:10:47] That's correct.

[00:10:48] Who lives in Egypt? Most of their childhood except the Egyptians. Were you were you an army brat or what?

[00:10:56] No, my actual my father was Egyptian, my mother's Armenian. And so my I was born in the in the States. And then my dad decided that he wanted to go back to his roots and open his clinic in Egypt. And I was five at the time.

[00:11:12] What kind of clinic was.

[00:11:13] It moved there and really spent the next ten years there?

[00:11:18] What kind of clinic was it?

[00:11:19] Well, he was a cardiologist, so he. Yeah, he was a doctor, a physician. And so he went to, you know, just kind of further his career back in his home country.

[00:11:31] Is there less heart disease in Egypt than the United States?

[00:11:35] No, there's probably more. Life expectancy isn't as high. Yeah, just people over there love to eat and they eat really well and they don't really care about exercising so as much, at least at the time that I was living there. I know things have changed. It's been a.

[00:11:52] While. My background is Syrian because my dad came from Antioch, Syria, and that's how I got my name. He couldn't read it at Ellis Island. And you know, they said, Oh, that's. Antion close enough. And that's how I got my name. That's a great story. But it's all about food, though. I know. My. All my relatives. Are you hungry? No. Okay. Well, eat this, then. That was the whole thing.

[00:12:21] Exactly.

[00:12:22] Yeah. So. But you were really serious about your this taking care of yourself. I mean, CrossFit and all these different brutal workouts that you. That you did. I saw you hanging on a giant rope one time.

[00:12:39] Yeah. You must be a badass. I think that the way you work out at the gym really kind of helps you navigate through life's challenges. I really see a really good metaphor there, and I am the type of person that likes to push my limits, and I like to feel strong. So I feel like a strong mind lives in a strong body and vice versa. So that's sort of why I do that. And I love to see myself be capable of things like that. Physical challenges.

[00:13:11] All right. Well, you just used the term C. S e, and I understand that you can't see crap without your contact lenses. Is that true?

[00:13:21] That's true. You've been digging deep into my bio.

[00:13:25] So my question is, is do you ever wear non prescription glasses over the contacts just for style purposes?

[00:13:35] Ah, that's such a great question. Um, no, the answer is no. But I will share a story. Can I share a story on that point?

[00:13:45] Yeah.

[00:13:46] Yeah. So one day for April Fools, I posted on my Instagram three new trends. And one of those trends was to wear glasses without without the actual glass in them. And I claimed it to be a trend. But it was April Fool's, so it was a joke.

[00:14:05] But I bet people do it. I mean, I mean not maybe without any glass at all in them, but you could have just a non prescription glasses for fashion style probably Elton John does.

[00:14:17] Yeah, I'm sure people do it. And actually just since you brought it up this summer, it's really trendy sunglasses are really trending like all different shapes and sizes and colors. Just. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

[00:14:29] Yeah, that's good. Good to know. Yeah. And and another thing I learned about you that just irks me to no end is you love trees. And I'll bet you I've spent 30 to $50,000 since I've lived in this house getting rid of leaves and pine needles off of my house. And when one more person tells me how pretty my trees are, I think I'm going to punch him in the nose. But it probably has to do with your love of aesthetics, right?

[00:15:00] Yeah. I mean, you know, here's the thing. This is why I love trees. First of all, they're beautiful and they're part of nature.

[00:15:08] Then you can come every year and help me clean up twice a year. How about.

[00:15:12] No? That is kind of the downside of having trees in your backyard. But yeah, what I think is remarkable about trees is that, you know, when they're planted, first of all, they live for years, they outlive people that you can find a tree that's like 500 years old. Thousand years old. Right. But also I love that the way that they grow, it's very symbolic of the way life is. Right? So when a tree roots itself, if it finds an obstacle, it roots itself around the obstacle. If the wind blows a certain way, then it makes a tree possibly lean towards one side when it's growing. If it doesn't have enough support and it's too heavy, top heavy, it starts throwing down branches as roots. I just think that there's so that's so fascinating to me.

[00:15:59] Yeah, absolutely. Have you ever been to the Alamo?

[00:16:02] Have not.

[00:16:03] Okay. Because there's a tree out front that's just unbelievable. They have to it's so old and they have to prop up the some of the limbs with with metal stakes into the ground because it's just a wild tree. Just look it up online.

[00:16:19] I will. I will. Do you know how old it is?

[00:16:22] Oh, I don't know. I don't I don't really know. It's pretty darn old. Um, so. So let's get back to this. So you're obviously a fashion expert, but a lot of people since the pandemic that started working from home and doing stuff from home probably didn't think I was that important, like it would be if they were going to the office. But I think you probably have a different idea about that, huh?

[00:16:48] Well, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you remember during the pandemic we had like professionals showing up on Zoom with their beds in the background or having people walk behind them barely dressed. And I kept thinking, why does this professional not see that? That. No. Nobody wants to be in their bedroom. Nobody wants to be in your bedroom. Nobody wants to hear the toilet flush. And how about Jeffrey Toobin? Mission again was born to teach people how to show up super professionally on camera so that they can still, you know, be on brand and and they could be well-received.

[00:17:23] Now, you didn't coach Jeffrey Toobin, did you?

[00:17:25] No.

[00:17:26] You know him? Do you know who that is? No, that's that's the legal expert on CNN that was caught playing with himself on.

[00:17:37] Oh, God. Yeah. No, I did not.

[00:17:40] That's good. I didn't know if that was terrible. Now, besides what the people are wearing and looking like, you have kind of a unique service to help people set up the whole shebang, right?

[00:17:54] Yeah. Yeah. And the way I like to. To explain it to people, people, because I do work on the business brand as a whole and so people don't generally understand what that all is. But you can think about it this way. The Jade House of Style has three suites and suite number one is styling the person styling you so in your clothes. Suite number two is styling your online presence. That means how do you show up on Zoom? Does your background speak your brand? Do you have things in there that make people go, Oh, I know what they do and they are interesting. And suite number three is about styling the actual brand itself in terms of logo design and brand colors and presenting clients with brand boxes where they can actually have a full portfolio of all the things that go into their brand, like on their website and so forth. So it's the jade house of style and there are all these parts to really building a dynamic brand. And so I help my clients with all of those things.

[00:18:58] Give us some examples of and you could do this remotely.

[00:19:03] Yes, I actually 90% of my clients are remote are all over the country. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:09] So you can look at their their background. I think you called it set design. Was that what you call it, Correct.

[00:19:15] Correct. Yeah. And that has been such a tool, a great tool for my clients. So, you know, if you want me to elaborate, I totally I can do that now. Yeah. So Set Designs was born as an offer when I started the Waist Up Wardrobe podcast because people want to learn how to show up, how to design their background when they're on camera. So I started designing on brand sets for my clients. That means we place in the background. We created sort of dimension. We place things that were on brand for them. We incorporated brand colors and their personality and really it is very customizable. I even have created dual sets where people, you know, can have like dual set in the background where they can cover up one side of it and have one set and then cover up the other side and have a totally different set. Oh, that's great. We've done some remarkable things with that and people love it.

[00:20:15] What I can't stand is these electronic backgrounds.

[00:20:19] Oh, me too. That's why I was like, No, no, no, no. It's it's so weird. You get keyed out and.

[00:20:25] Yeah, yeah. And tell them what keyed out means. I mean, that drives me crazy.

[00:20:29] Yeah, well, what that means is, like, if you have a color on or your hair color or something on you is the same as your background, it's probably going to show up as like a black hole. And also, you notice the the movement sometimes creates these gaps and weird images like weird parts of the of the they're called artifacts.

[00:20:52] Yeah. And and the wispy hair wispy blonde hair and can really. Yeah. Terrible. Yeah. So I'm so thrilled that you're doing this because all the people need to do is set up something nice in the background and and it could. I mean mine. I think if you recall, I had a baby in the background that brought up a whole story about my dad's travel from Syria know So yeah, so it can stimulate a lot of conversation but most people they know that. Hey, did you did you see that lawyer that was doing that deposition and he had a cat filter on him? Did you see that.

[00:21:30] He had a cat? What?

[00:21:31] He had a cat filter on the zoom.

[00:21:34] Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did see that. Yes. Yes, I did see that. Yeah. People get a little bit funny with that stuff. Yeah.

[00:21:41] And then there was this guy on the BBC. His little toddler came through the door of his room. Yes. There's so many.

[00:21:48] Worse than that. At the very beginning of the pandemic, there was some kind of diplomat like from South America who showed up on camera without a bra like it was. It was like full. And I was like, what is going on? She didn't realize I guess she was on camera.

[00:22:05] I guess not. Yeah. Or maybe she. Yeah.

[00:22:07] Yeah, maybe she she did.

[00:22:10] Yeah. So. So that. I love that idea of the dual sets where just with a slight camera change or angle or covering up one side, you can have more than one set for more than one purpose because I have multiple businesses and never even bothered doing that. But that's a that's a great idea. Did you have you written a book or are you thinking about doing a book on this, this topic?

[00:22:35] It's coming Tom It's coming.

[00:22:38] You have to name yet?

[00:22:39] Yeah, I haven't I haven't written my book yet. But you know, part of the reason I hadn't written it yet is because I couldn't decide if I wanted to compile a bunch of stories of my clients and the transformations or if I wanted to do sort of a guide, like a style guide and or do something that was a hybrid like book, you know? Yeah. And so I am still noodling on that, but it's coming. And the other thing is like, I want to have because my business a real hold it out to be a luxury business super custom. I'm not like your trunk club or your stitch fix. This is a super custom way of managing people's brand through their wardrobe or their online presence or whatnot. And I wanted to have sort of a limited edition, like just 50 copies that were really well made and were kind of like an exclusive, pretty looking book, um, to, to, to market instead of sort of doing the, you know, um, I don't know, 500 copies and, and mass produce it, but I still haven't decided. So that's, that's the holdup.

[00:23:49] Yeah. One just another idea possibly is Amazon particularly loves series of books and so you can write them a lot faster and then people end up buying all of them. The series on specific topics, and they're a lot easier to write faster than you could have some type of container for the whole series. And then that's another trick that's for years old. I know my mother used to buy these crap supposedly collectible things from the Franklin Mint and they would give you the case and then you wouldn't want to not leave any of the holes in the case gone. So you'd buy all their crappy, worthless coins. So, so, so just take that concept. If you had a holder for all the books in your series, people were going to buy all of them to fill up the holes. That's a.

[00:24:38] Brilliant idea. Brilliant idea. Because there are quite a few topics I want to cover that might not necessarily be related, but they kind of connect in some ways. So yeah, for you.

[00:24:49] All right. So we're going to take a brief sponsor break. When we come back, we're going to ask Christine, what's a typical day look like for her and how she stays motivated. How about that? So, folks, about, let's see, 25 years or so ago, I kind of turned the Internet marketing guru world on its head and that people at my level were charging 50 or 100 grand up front to to teach them what they knew about online and digital marketing. It wasn't even that digital back in those days. And I said, No, that's too risky. You give those people 50, 100 grand, you'd never see them again. And it's too much to ask for a small business to put up that kind of money up front. So I said, I'm going to turn this upside down. So I asked them to put in about a 10% deposit to get into my program, and then for me to get my 50,000, you had to net 200,000 because I tied my success to your success. So people kind of love this. In 1800 students later, the program is still going strong. It's the longest running, most unique, most successful program ever in the field of Internet and digital marketing.

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[00:26:54] All right, let's get back to the main event we got Christine Vartanian. Here she is, the fairy godmother to her, to her clients. I saw online tell them that's how they feel after you get a hold of them, right?

[00:27:07] Yeah. Yeah. They people ask me all the time, Who are you to your clients? I say, I think I'm their fairy godmother.

[00:27:15] And they feel like a million bucks, right?

[00:27:18] That's right. That's the idea. And the goal. Always.

[00:27:21] All right. So what's a typical day look like for you?

[00:27:24] Oh, okay. So a day in the life. Okay. So I have a routine in the morning. Like a lot of entrepreneurs, I like to start my day with a routine because it gets me anchored and it feels I feel kind of accomplished in the morning when I do it. And really, my routine is a bunch of small, simple things plus some more complicated or longer things that take a little longer. But I. I have it listed on my calendar every single day and I get to check it off, which is another really great thing to do because you feel kind of accomplished. So the one thing the first thing I do in the morning is I connect with each of my children. I mean, the ones that are at home, I don't. But like when the ones that are in college I always like will say good morning to them or just kind of let them know I'm here and just connect with them very, you know, very basically. I also then I'm really, really it's really important to me to check in on my bank accounts in the morning. It literally takes five minutes, but it makes me really kind of understand my my financial profile on a daily basis and it helps me not have anything slip through the cracks. So I do that. And then I. I have this this thing that I'm doing, I am creating a whole handwritten copy of the Holy Bible that's handwritten by me. So I take time in the morning to work on that. And I have a book that I'm always reading. So I'll like I'll read a little bit in my book, go for my workout, and then I'll come back to take on the day. But that's my. What time did you get up?

[00:28:56] What time did you get up?

[00:28:57] I usually get up. I'm up by 6:00 in the morning. Sometimes I get up a little earlier, like today I was up at 530. But yeah.

[00:29:05] Because you were so excited about this podcast. That's probably.

[00:29:08] Why. Well, I'm so yeah, today especially I was up at 530, but I am excited about when my feet hit the ground. I'm really excited about what I'll get to accomplish and what the day will bring. I'm just kind of a person that loves to find joy in everything, really, even in challenges, sometimes beautiful.

[00:29:27] So what kind of things do you eat? I know you're Miss Fitness.

[00:29:31] Oh, yeah, I'm very particular with my diet, actually. Okay, so I have a morning routine where I will eat. I drink coffee in the morning with almond milk and it's two shots of espresso and almond milk plus two eggs. And that's it for breakfast. Then for lunch, I usually have some protein, whether it's tuna or salmon with a little bit of salad. And then I will have a snack in the middle of the day after that. And then at nighttime, I always have like a big serving of protein, like either a steak or salmon or something like that with a huge serving of a vegetable like broccoli. I love broccoli. I love every vegetable, actually. So, yeah, that's. That's that's about it.

[00:30:16] Wow. That's like a bird. We don't eat a lot.

[00:30:20] I try. Well, I eat. I have a very heavy protein diet. I do eat some carbs, but not a lot. I really after I turned 40, I was like, ah, I got to get rid of some of my carbs. Although I do sometimes feel like I need it if I'm like working out extra or something like that. So I will. I'll cheat with that, you know? But other than that, I pretty much stick to my diet.

[00:30:43] Well, it's working out for you. But now you were so gracious that you got number two on the Miss Health and Fitness program. So you're going to do it again next year?

[00:30:57] I'm thinking about it. Why not? I mean, I came pretty close, so. Yeah, and it was a big prize at the end. It's like a $20,000 prize plus a cover for Miss Fitness magazine. So. But wow, next time. And you know what? It was a great experience. I really enjoyed every minute of it.

[00:31:16] So second, anything but first, didn't get anything right.

[00:31:21] It's just first that gets the prize. There we.

[00:31:24] Go. No participation trophies with them, I guess. Yeah.

[00:31:28] Who wants a participation trophy? It's so funny. I ran A5K last two weekends ago and my youngest son, this is my all my kids are really competitive with me. They're like, drop down and give me 20 push ups. And and my youngest son, I came in third in my age group and he was like, It doesn't count if it's not first Mama. I'm like, Yeah, it does.

[00:31:51] That's good. Good, good. They're going to they're going to really be something in life. So you have some stuff for some deals for them and some some giveaways, right?

[00:32:02] Yeah. So here's here's the thing. As we discussed earlier on the show, one of the things that my clients really love to get lined up with their brand is their set. So they, you know, the set design has been a really big thing in my business. People want to have a set that is on brand, that is designed and styled and really that expresses their brand like a billboard, right? They have this opportunity to talk about their brand without even saying a word just by visual and so on. The set designs. Anybody from the show that gets connected with me will get a 20% discount on the set design and and I would love to help entrepreneurs or anybody listening to your show that has an interest in that really up level the way they're showing up on camera.

[00:32:51] Awesome, beautiful, beautiful. And you said you had a give away.

[00:32:56] Yeah. So the give away is basically a downloadable top ten. This is in the styling realm, more the styling of you. The top ten must haves essentials that you need to have for summer, and that will come in the form of a pdf downloadable. And it's a great checklist. You just kind of go through your closet and see if you have them all. They're always, they're timeless, they're classic, they're essential. It's not a trend thing. It's basically the essentials you need in your closet during the summer. For women, by the way, for women.

[00:33:27] Beautiful. Now where do they go to get this stuff?

[00:33:30] Well, I will go ahead and send you the link to the to the downloadable. How is that.

[00:33:35] Okay. Yeah, we have it in the show notes for everybody. Yeah. And what about for set design?

[00:33:41] For set design, they would just have to reach out to me or they can contact you and you can connect them with me. My email is Christine@JadeHouseofStyle.com. My website is JadeHouseofStyle.com and I am also on Instagram at Jade.HouseofStyle.com.

[00:34:13] That somebody else get the Jade House of style?

[00:34:15] No, I have that. But the dot is important to me because that's sort of the prefix I use for a lot of different things.

[00:34:21] Got it. Got it. Well, thanks so much for coming on. It's been a blast and it's a really, really important service for people that want to up their up their game because there's just so much garbage out there. Now, if you want to go viral, you know, accidentally, you know, be naked. But but other than that, that doesn't add to your credibility so much. So set design and top ten must haves for summer. Christine, thanks so much for coming on.

[00:34:51] Thank you for having me. Tom, it's always a pleasure.

[00:34:53] Okey dokey, folks, we will catch y'all in the next episode. See you later.